Talk:Phoenix (Wings of Liberty)

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Can this unit really be called air superiority fighter? Useless against Corrupter and slightly weaker than Viking in air to air....

What? You mean it's not superior in the air? But it has so many uses vs... hmmm... eeehhh.... Corruptors? Brood Lords? Vikings? Battlecruisers? VRs? other Phoenixes?
Enough with the sarcasm. That is the in-game description of the unit. We might as well remove it. --Kokkan 13:48, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Phoenix numbers

The current article states: "a group of five units (six vs Terran) can easily move into a undefended worker line and cause big economical damage". I think you need less: against Light units, phoenices deal 20 damage, so you need 2 firing units vs probes and drones and 3 firing units vs SCVs to one-shot them. I would therefore say "a group of three units (four vs Terran) can easily move into a undefended worker line and cause big economical damage". Obviously you can double the numbers and lift two workers at the time if your APM permits :)

I would say the limiting factor here is not the damage, but the energy and perhaps time. Graviton Beam is 50 energy, so that would be 4 workers per Phoenix. However, it's an extremely rare case to have Phoenixes with full energy. So lets assume 100 energy per unit. With 3 Phoenix that is 6 probes, a good number but not crippling.
However you want to lift more than one worker at a time. So you need 1+2 units (1+3 vs terran) per worker. That way you will kill it instantly on lifting it. So 3(4), 6(8) or 9(12) would be the optimal group size for 1,2 and 3 lifting. This is assuming the AI don't overkill attack units. --Kokkan 22:19, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

White-ra debuts Anion Pulse-Crystals

Is it worth mentioning White-ra's use of the range upgrade in his IPL showmatch against Stephano?

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