Talk:Global StarCraft II League

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Player Naming[edit]

Many top players are entering the SC2 scene from other games (not just BW), a lot of them have new IDs accompanying them. I noticed the most recent GSL finalists are listed under their BW name tags. This I believe to be a problem in its infancy. Although verbally we (the BW fans) may always refer to Boxer as Boxer, instead of his new ID ManofOneway, consistency needs to be observed, seeing as players change their IDs because likely that is how they wish to be recognized as in the new scene. Any deviation from such standards will result in many confused BW-virgin SC2 fans. Although teaching recent fans about old players is fine, I don't believe in shoving anything down anyone's throat, even if sSKS is a much worse ID than Tester.

To reflect this on the Liquipedia II page, I may suggest adding a separate section listing the players' old IDs beside their new ones. A short (1 sentence) description of who they were before entering SC2 and a link to their Liquipedia I page (if it exists) should suffice for such an endeavor.

I would love further discussion.

@op : i would suggest always using the displayed ids from within the gsl vods and add the different ids on their individual player sites.

Prize Money[edit]

If the prize pool for the first qualifying tournament is 170,000 dollars, what is the prize money for the actual GSL? The one for which they are now determining who is S class and A class? --95.96.30.170 05:01, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

2011 Tournament Format visualization[edit]

I see that a lot of work went into making the tables that illustrates how the 2011 tournament works, but I don't like it at all. There's already a link at the bottom of the page with graph for how the tournament works, this image could be thumbnailed beside the topic or something so people know it's there. But the tables doubles the length of the section. --Salle 06:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Tournament naming[edit]

Using the official names makes the page name ridiculously long, for example "2011 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ Global StarCraft II League March". Isn't it easier just naming the tournaments consistently "GSL 2011 January", "GSL 2011 March" etc?

The naming convention we use now creates excess work. As the tournament pages are already created when sponsors are announced, they now need to be moved and the tab-template adjusted accordingly. Furthermore, people linking from somewhere else on Liquipedia needs to shorten the name to make it readable in a sentence.

We could still give sponsors exposure by putting the official sponsored name in the Infobox title... --Blueblister 15:48, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

My short response is: Yes!
A little longer would be, if the bot can be made to move a page and all it's sub pages and rename all links to all these pages when it's moved, then I wouldn't have that big of an issue with the naming convention. --Salle 16:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Why is GSL World Championship a Code S level event but not Blizzard Cup?[edit]

It has all the hallmarks of a special tournament like the Blizzard cup or the allstars invitationaI. MVP has only won 2 GSLs just like MMA has only won one. I see no reason why an invite tournament can be counted alongside the GSL. Sure the prize money was there, but there's a huge difference between a full GSL season with it's seeds etc and choosing 8 top Koreans along with 8 top Foreigners. I just can't see any argument for counting MVP's win alongside his two legitimate GSL victories, it cheapens the GSL medals compared with say the OSL or MSL. Imagine the outrage if we started counting MBC or OGN's side show tournaments as starleague victories.

If you look at the rankings you will see that the World Championship as the Super Tournament give GSL Ranking Points opposed to AoL or the Blizzard Cup for example. Another source confirms this. shz (Talk | Contributions) 21:29, 12 January 2012 (KST)
Any tournament that gave GSL points was considered a main tournament on the same level as any Code S one. --blahz0r 21:30, 12 January 2012 (KST)
I think there is an argument for including the Blizzard Cup as a canonical Code S event despite not awarding GSL points. The tournament is explicitly organised to determine the best GSL player of 2011 (as opposed to the AOLs which are explicitly organised as side tournaments), and most content producers (casters, etc) refer to MMA as having won two GSL titles. Besides, GSL points have little impact as seeding for GSL is determined by performance in previous GSL, not points. Pirsq 04:50, 3 March 2012 (KST)
I know this is old, but I thought that this might be of interest: From the NesTea vignettes produced by GOMTV recently (recognizing his 10 consecutive Code S and 16 consecutive GSL Tour appearances), it appears that Code S is its own separate entity, and the Super Tournament, World Championship, and Blizzard Cup are considered "GSL Tour" events (so the winners of those tournaments, Code S, and the Open Seasons are considered to be GSL Champions). So the important thing is that the BC is a GSL Tour event (as is Code S), not that BC is (or is not) Code S. Compare with the AOL events, which are not part of the GSL Tour (and as such, do not feature the GSL logo on their respective banners on the GOMTV website). -- jobber123rd talk 07:04, 1 September 2012 (KST)
I'd also like to point out that GOMTV considers both the GSL World Championship and GSL Blizzard Cups as a "GSL Championship". Which means both Life and MMA should be in the 2 gold medals won category, if we're going to put Mvp in the 4 medals category. They even gave gold pins to MMA and Life for their Blizzard Cup wins. Kiyo. 16:56, 5 January 2013 (KST)
Well, GOMTV more or less advertised the Blizzard Cup 2011 as an event distinct from the GSL at first, which IMO led most (if not the majority of) viewers to believe that it wasn't part of the GSL tour. There is fairly little doubt that they regard it as a GSL tour event now though ([1]). Since we made the choice of merging regular GSL championships with GSL tour special events (the World Championship and the Super Tournament, that is) a long time ago, I feel that leaving the Blizzard Cup in a completely separate category wouldn't make much sense. Hence I support merging the Blizzard Cup series into the GSL series across the wiki.
Koorb  Talk to me  02:47, 9 January 2013 (KST)