Talk:Zerg Strategy

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"Changed titles back to conform to wiki" Sorry I didn't realise I was breaking the conforms. Essential Techniques is a better title though, is it not? --Klive5ive 06:55, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


Seems strange that "larva management and number of hatcheries" paragraph has 2 references to how to move the larva to the left of the hatchery. Strictly speaking this has nothing to do with the title. There is a lot that can be said about this topic so it should probably also have an article of its own if someone who knows enough about it and is able to articulate it well enough could do that.


May I suggest a rethink on the layout of this (and the corresponding Terran and Protoss pages I suppose) page? Basically, the structure is a bit weird.

   * 1 Overview
   * 2 Key Ideas
         o 2.1 Larva Management and Number of Hatcheries
         o 2.2 Mutalisk Micro
         o 2.3 Surrounding
         o 2.4 Flanking
         o 2.5 Backstabbing
   * 3 Matchup Guides
   * 4 Specific Strategies
         o 4.1 ZvP Builds
         o 4.2 ZvT Builds
         o 4.3 ZvZ Builds
   * 5 Matchup Techniques
         o 5.1 ZvP Techniques
         o 5.2 ZvT Techniques
         o 5.3 ZvZ Techniques

Why does specific strategies and matchup techniques have subheadings for each matchup, but matchup guides does not? I can only assume because the matchup guides section only has one link for each as its content, so subheadings are unnecessary. What that says to me though is that it's a useless section. In addition, the 'matchup techniques' contain many non-matchup specific techniques, and there is a lot of overlap between that main section and the match up subheadings Why not something like:

   * 1 Overview
   * 2 Key Ideas
         o 2.1 Larva Management and Number of Hatcheries
         o 2.2 Mutalisk Micro
         o 2.3 Surrounding
         o 2.4 Flanking
         o 2.5 Backstabbing
   * 3 Essential Techniques
   * 4 ZvP
         o 4.1 Core Concepts
         o 4.2 Specific Techniques
         o 4.3 Common Build Orders
   * 5 ZvT
         o 5.1 Core Concepts
         o 5.2 Specific Techniques
         o 5.3 Common Build Orders
   * 6 ZvZ
         o 6.1 Core Concepts
         o 6.2 Specific Techniques
         o 6.3 Common Build Orders

I would also assume that 'I want to work on my ZvT lets check out the ZvT section' is a more common use case than 'I really fancy looking up all the Zerg techniques for every matchup', so it would make sense to group them that way. Superficially, it would be a major change, but it would actually be very little work. Any thoughts on the matter?

In the absence of strategic insight I have no choice but to be picky about layout, sorry.

--n.n.n 19:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


Not going to start moving around other stuff until I get some word on previous point, but there are a lot of other things that need adjusting here. Why is backstabbing a 'key idea'? It's a essential technique at best, if you roll it in with ling runby, otherwise it's matchup specific. A key idea should be something that is relevant to almost every match, no?

--n.n.n 20:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Your point is absolutely valid. No one has really given a thought to actual formatting yet since we want to get content in first, but a reorganization of these pages would probably help players ease into using Liquipedia. I would give you the green light, but a staff member should probably be alerted first before this is done. --Mystlord 08:50, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your suggestions. I think indeed that the core concepts -> essential techniques -> go into single matchups layout is superior. Speaking in general, reorganizing this page is appreciated if it retains the main function: This page should provide a starting point for Zerg players that gives them the maximum orientation (more than the Strategy page), with the minimum amount of text. Reading this page should leave you knowing, what link to click. --Aesop 10:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Ok there seems to be some enthusiasm for the idea so I will draft some ideas and stick them on my user page as suggested by Aesop. Would it not be a problem if the Zerg strategy page had a different layout to the the other two? --n.n.n 12:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Not at all, we could use it to remodel the other pages too, so they make more sense. --Aesop 13:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Macro Rules[edit]

The way the marco rules (three rules) are written right now is confusing and misleading. So far I trust Bakuryu's judgement. This section needs a more in-depth analysis and should get an own article. I'll re-do it in a bit. --GeckoXp (talk) 20:40, 24 November 2013 (KST)